they started attacking in india knowing that the indians wanted to avoid getting into a nuclear exchange. if you have nukes and you are more aggressive than the other guy you can go farther than you would if you didn't. it's called the stability instability. those who want to look up. finally, as was mentioned before , the corporations in the middle east, the saudi king told them, if the iranians did nukes, we will also. and from there to other countries may follow. and in the country as fraught with tension as the middle east, you don't want to have a cascade . >> so, just talk about this cascade. in your view, this great arab revolt, the so-called era spring. has it changed the proliferation intentions our policies with government in the region? better or worse? >> put an exact science. what i can say is that the sense that there is more about what is going on, more consciousness. certainly when you looked at the issue, the slippage of authority that happened in the region and, particularly in the case of libya where they had a stockpile disappear, that has caused great alarm about how